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#1 Rook

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Posted 15 April 2009 - 09:11 PM

Some pics of my mostly complete M70 pistol and holster.

















A few notes. The belt mounting bracket is made from Aluminum stock.
and spray painted black, as are the chicago post screws.
The bracket consists of the long piece that bolts to the holster shell,
4 spacer pieces and the shorter back piece.

There is one bolt missing because the Chicago post and the bolt were
the wrong sizes. I actually have to replace the holster mount posts anyway
because they're about 1/8" too long and I was forced to use washers to
make it work for the time being. The top 4 fit absolutely perfectly.

I still need to add a snap to the front of the holster and add the retention
strap.

I initially painted the slide of the pistol flat black and the grip semi-flat.
I ended up using a semi-flat clear coat to help protect the pistol and green parts.
The muzzle break is screwed in place. I drilled into the front of the pistol, removed
the moulded bolt on the muzzle break and added one of my own.

No reason for it, I just decided to do it.

Any questions, feel free to ask.

Enjoy!

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Posted 16 April 2009 - 10:03 AM

Great work Russ smile.gif

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Posted 16 April 2009 - 07:17 PM

I love the frame for the holster, just wish I had the tools to make that myself!

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Posted 20 April 2009 - 10:43 AM

I have enough metal left I could possibly make one or two more sets of holster brackets if there was any interest.
This was sized the same as the ones from Dan's holster.

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Posted 20 April 2009 - 12:24 PM

QUOTE (Rook @ Apr 20 2009, 07:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have enough metal left I could possibly make one or two more sets of holster brackets if there was any interest.
This was sized the same as the ones from Dan's holster.

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I'll take one Russ. PM me the details.

Awesome work on the pistol BTW..... blink.gif

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Posted 20 April 2009 - 07:09 PM

QUOTE (space marine @ Apr 20 2009, 01:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'll take one Russ. PM me the details.
Yeah, what he said! biggrin.gif I just don’t have access anymore to the tools to make something like this.

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Posted 20 April 2009 - 07:45 PM

Okay, I'll try to see what I can see this coming weekend.

I need to run back to the hardware store to get some different
sized Chicago posts... if they make them that small. smile.gif

With the spacers for the belt the top oned fit perfectly, the ones
that go through the holster itself are a bit too long.

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Posted 21 April 2009 - 04:29 PM

Awesome work! I don't have a pistol yet. That's on my list though.
Anybody got dimensioned sketches? I know a guy that works for a sheet metal shop. (yeah, it's me)
We don't use a lot of Aluminum, but we sometimes fab stuff from T-6061 in different gages.

Cheers!

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Posted 21 April 2009 - 06:20 PM

The parts are all appx. 2" wide.

The long back piece that attaches to the holster body via 3 screws is 6 7/8" long
The top piece that goes over the belt is appx. 3 3/16 (just shy of 3.25) inches long.
I made the spacers (4 of them) appx. 3/8 inch long.

2 spacers stack at the top and 2 at the bottom to give enough space for the pistol
belt to fit through.

The AL plate used was 1/8 inch thick.

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Posted 22 April 2009 - 08:49 AM

Thanks!
I might work up some CAD plans and send'em to you for review, if that's okay.
Won't be anytime soon, though...

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Posted 28 April 2009 - 06:42 PM

I'd like to get in on the holster backing as well if there is one left to take.

just pm me what I need to pay and wher eto send it wink.gif

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Posted 29 April 2009 - 12:07 PM

Sorry guys, been working on Indy Webleys. smile.gif

I'll try and get these sorted out this week/weekend. I'll need to modify it slightly as I
found the pic of the back of Dan's holster. I was missing the retention strap pin which is centered
and slightly lower than the top two bolts.

Also, the new, smaller size bolts I got to replace my ovver-long ones work nice.

Pics... eventually...

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Posted 02 May 2009 - 11:39 AM

Hopefully I'll have mine finished before mid june so I can wear it for AdCon and have a nice little test-run before D*C this year. I have 3 weeks left of my academy, so when that's finished I can get to work on some cotume stuff smile.gif

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Posted 05 May 2009 - 06:05 AM

So, my situation is I'm desiring to switch my holster over to the left hand side (for my lefty self), and I'm wondering what should I use to fill in the holes? Bondo? Epoxy? fiberglass resin? I know I'll also be installing a new button snap and everything because of the change. But I think I can get a replacement set of snaps like used on my X26 taser and those sit nice and flush on the inside.

Any rebuild suggestions for backing material on the inside of this switch?

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Posted 05 May 2009 - 08:25 AM

QUOTE (jathoris @ May 2 2009, 02:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hopefully I'll have mine finished before mid june so I can wear it for AdCon and have a nice little test-run before D*C this year. I have 3 weeks left of my academy, so when that's finished I can get to work on some cotume stuff smile.gif


Looking forward to seeing your pics!

QUOTE (Kingdom @ May 5 2009, 09:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So, my situation is I'm desiring to switch my holster over to the left hand side (for my lefty self), and I'm wondering what should I use to fill in the holes?
Bondo? Epoxy? fiberglass resin? I know I'll also be installing a new button snap and everything because of the change. But I think I can get a replacement
set of snaps like used on my X26 taser and those sit nice and flush on the inside.


I would think you could use Bondo to fill most any hole. Heck, I used it to fill a 1" wide (by 10 inch long...) cut in the side of our big company truck.
For future reference, do NOT go through the ATM lane at the bank unless you're sure there's no security camera sticking out. rolleyes.gif

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Any rebuild suggestions for backing material on the inside of this switch?



That's a tough one. because the holsters are already pretty tight fitting to the pistol, any material you add to strengthen that will add to the wall thickness.
Also, make sure you have enough clearance between the holster belt mount and the battery casing on the side of the scope.

You could possibly add a piece of thin sheet metal, or even thin sheet styrene. Just be sure to dress the edge so it doesn't catch on the pistol.

How hard is it to attach the snaps? All the ones I've found have required hammering to get them secure. sad.gif

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Posted 05 May 2009 - 08:45 AM

That's darn nice!!!

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Posted 07 May 2009 - 08:54 PM

You know, darn it, I didn't thing about the scope needing head room when building the holster, so I'm glad I didn't tear into the thing on my off days.
Thanks for the bondo info. And yeah I trhink I'll insert a slip of plastic in there, like a for sale sign, gooped in epoxy I think.

Here's some pics of the screw-in-rivits and snaps I'm talking about, but the female head-snap will be on the nylon so I'm not worried about having to bang around the holster. Now the magic trick is seeing if I can "actually" get ahold of an extra set of these screws.

button snap is a phillips head and the rivit based ones are a thin nonmetric allen wrench head.







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Posted 08 May 2009 - 07:40 AM

Hey, that looks pretty kewel Russ!! I have a character that "needs" lotsa guns that I plan on debutin' at DCon, this would work out for a crossdraw one.

If you make any more holsters, lmk bro!

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Posted 08 May 2009 - 11:13 AM

Well, Dan sells the holster itself. I just made the belt/holster attchment rig. smile.gif

I wish we could get the holsters made from a Hyperfirm rubber. The problem with the
rubber is that it takes FOREVER to harden. Turn around time is measured in days, not hours. sad.gif

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Posted 27 August 2009 - 10:11 PM

HAHA K, I just noticed you have the "shiny" gear.. well.. I guess it's better than standard basket weave.
I just basically finished my kit. Didn't get to it when I had though I could-months back.. Oi! mad.gif But, It's a couple touch-ups here and there and I have most of the holster done, just wasn't sure how to piece it together until now. So far, this is what i've got.
http://i204.photobuc...ris/pistol1.jpg
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2-toned the slide from the receiver and ended up pretty happy with the results.

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Posted 27 August 2009 - 10:40 PM

If you want to get technical... your 2 tone paint job is backwards. smile.gif
The slide should be flat black and the grip section semi-glossy/satin.
That's because on the real pistol, the slide is metal and the grip is a
plastic polymer.

Either way, it's a nice job you did! Congrats!

Anyone need a set of metal holster mounts?

I have two sets of them made up with all post bolts and one set
without bolts at all (I ran out). You'll need to paint them yourself.



$20 plus shipping for the no-bolts kit. $30 for a complete mount rig if you pick it
up from me at DC, otherwise $38.00 shipped in the USA. If you want it painted,
I can do that at no additional cost.

International shipping higher of course.

The top, center bolt is to attach your retention strap to. I actually replaced some of the bolts
on my own holster which is why there is discoloration on mine. smile.gif

Still haven't figured out a solution for the strap "snap" issue. Nobody makes
a magnetic snap that will work with the thick holster plastic, and I'm cautious about
using hammered snaps for fear of breaking the holster.

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Posted 27 August 2009 - 11:29 PM

Very Nice !! jumpy.gif How much is the shipping to Scotland ? rolleyes.gif

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Posted 28 August 2009 - 11:02 AM

I'll need to double check that for you.

You interested in a full set or the no-bolts set.

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Posted 28 August 2009 - 11:33 AM

QUOTE (Rook @ Aug 28 2009, 08:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'll need to double check that for you.

You interested in a full set or the no-bolts set.

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Might as well go the whole hog, a full set please. As for the shipping, it
doesn't have to be the fastest just as long as it gets here....

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Posted 28 August 2009 - 11:55 AM

Bummer man, I'd love to take one of those off your hands, but I'm gonna make it so I'll have it finished for D*C _ i vowed last year that I'd never bring anything that wasn't done (or couldn't fix really quickly) ever again.. HAHA.. learned that lesson the VERY hard way!
the two tone thing.. That's what I thought too. Weird thing is, it looks exactly like my real glock. It doesn't translate well in pictures which has me thinking that I may want to repaint it after DC, but the glock I have at home, the slide has way more shine than the receiver.. hence why rolleyes.gif heh.. I painted it that way.. But I agree with ya.. oh well for now right? haha

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Posted 28 August 2009 - 12:04 PM

Jathoris, If you want one of the mounts, I can paint it and bring it to DC for you. Finishing it after that will take 5 minutes with a screwdriver or multi-tool. smile.gif

Regarding the paint... interesting. Most of the ones I've seen have had a flat parkerized finish on the slide and that... plastic... look on the grips,
hence the reason I said what I said. If your real steel looks different, then go with that! smile.gif

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Posted 28 August 2009 - 01:22 PM

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Posted 28 August 2009 - 08:20 PM

Russ,
Yeah, I’d like in on that. The holster Dan sent came with a folded plastic piece that does look great, but I’d rather have as close to “screen accurate” as possible.
QUOTE (Rook @ May 8 2009, 12:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I wish we could get the holsters made from a Hyperfirm rubber. The problem with the rubber is that it takes FOREVER to harden. Turnaround time is measured in days, not hours. sad.gif
Let us know if you ever decide to do that. I’d love to have a holster a bit more durable. I’m scared to put a snap fitting on the resin holster I got as it’s pretty thin and I doubt it would hold up to the stress of the snap being used. My Dad has mad casting skills, maybe I could send the resin one I have and see if he could cast a copy of it in aluminum (NO, don’t ask if he’d do more than one. Dad doesn’t make extras of anything).

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Posted 29 August 2009 - 10:44 AM

Could he make more than one? wink.gif

I'll try making a parts run and see if I can score some more screw posts to finish the 3rd set.

If anyone else 'really' wants one I can see about getting some more AL stock after dragoncon. I'll start a new thread for that.

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Posted 17 October 2009 - 06:20 PM

hey for the button snap on the front side: JoAnne's sells a button press kit and they work pretty well. You'll have to dremmel the inside of the holster to be thin enough so the stem can reach though and crimp into the female receiving side. Anyhow, about $5 for 7 button sets, and about $17 for the crimping tool.

I went non canon and used a piece of black elsatic to holster the gun. But a good pro is it has a quick release habbit now biggrin.gif