Now that we have a logo I think we should turn our attention to designing a t-shirt or t-shirts to help promote the site and to generate a little extra cash at cons. I was initially thinking we start a CafePress store as an inexpensive way of getting t-shirts done but it doesn't seem that CafePress does 2 sided t-shirts, they only seem to print on the front. That's an issue because my idea for a SFH t-shirt would be to have the logo in the front in the pocket position and a version of the D*Con banner (minus the D*Con) on the back. I was also thinking that we should resurrect the old "got gate?" design and use that for SGHero shirts; after all the old "got gate?" shirts always sold well and now that SG-C.net is pretty dead and buried there's nothing keeping us from dusting off that design.

The back we should use the F-302 busting throught the gate version of the Got Gate artwork. We never used it before.

Forgot about that one, I still have the artwork so it would be quick and easy to use. Would we want to use one of the SGHero logos on the front or the SFH and if we go with SG do we try to incorporate the SFH logo anywhere or maybe just put "A part of the SciFiHero.net community" underneath the SGH logo?

How arbout putting the SFH logo on the chest (left pocket), and the SG-1 type SGH logo on the left sleeve and the SGA type SGH logo on the right sleeve.

Interesting concept, it would probably work but it wouldn't it add to the cost of the shirt? I'll mock something up next week, I really don't have time the rest of this week since I'll be heading up north for the weekend.

What's the minimum order number we'd need anyway and what do you think it would cost us?

Once we have the design, I'll get them priced out and try to keep the members cost to $20.00 USD per shirt or maybe less.

Cool beans.

On the subject of t-shirts, what do you think of the idea of a SFH hockey jersey? For some reason I started thinking of all sorts of different SFH logoed merchandise that we could do aside from just t-shirts. One of the things that I thought might be kind of cool would be a SFH hat, Cafe Press now offers patrol cap style haps with an embroidered design on the front, might be kind of cool to get some made up with the SFH or SGH logos on the front.

Not sure we would get a lot of Hockey Jersey requests, but hats would be cool.

I think hats would be a great idea, maybe baseball style would be a good option too?

I'd be down for a hat and shirt if you guys make 'em!

I like the idea of hats and jerseys, but a hockey jersey might get a bit too hot for some cons. What about a baseball-style jersey?

That might not be too bad and thinking of it better than a hockey jersey, but Dean might still prefer the hockey jersey though. A SFH hockey jersey would allow him to promote the site while teaching his son hockey.

I'd buy that for a dollar.....assuming I have any left after Dragoncon! Waiting for the rest of you here! ('cept Dan & Family of course! )

I'd like a babydoll or a women's fitted shirt.

It's ironic because Ryan and I were just talking about SFH shirts on the ride out to Georgia.

As it turns out I had a bit of spare time tonight so I did a couple of quick mock ups of one of the proposed t-shirt designs. This is the got gate with F-302 set up for either SFH or StartgeHero. I didn't do Dan's proposed sleeve elements yet as I don't have a template that includes sleeves made up yet, something I'll do when I get back from my trip.

Front



Back SFH



Back SGH

Phil,

Love the art work and I been dying to bring back the shirt! I really think we should go with a better quality vendor though...

Didnt Dan have a T-shirt guy that did them with some really nice shirts?




I really want to get some cool Atlantis ones done sometime soon too... I want to finish the art work on those jumper shirts and do couple other shirts as well!

got ata? The jumper and the gate on the back...
http://www.scifihero.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=2583

Nice ideas Riceball and Stitch !!!

Sounds cool.

like the idea of a SFH t-shirt and ranger cap - can sub those as part of the SG-1 uniform!

as for Atlantis - if we can do a long sleeved shirt with a zip collar - that can sub for Sheppard's garrison shirt...

(I try to find ways to do both - promote the group as well as be in costume!)

So, what do you think, Dan? Any thoughts, comments? I'd really hate to see this project whither on the vines and die.

Based on feedback I got from Dan here's the revised artwork for the shirt. I also made two versions of the back, one with a white F-302 and another with a silver/grey one for a little variety but I think it looks best all white and possibly with the SFH at the bottom in white instead of grey as well.

like the design with the white F-302 better - the color contrast makes the design pop out a bit more than the grey F-302

is the SFH logo for the back of the T-shirt or for the left front?

The SFH logo is meant for the front left of the shirt.

I'd also like a babydoll/juniors/fitted tee.

re: the design -- on the Got Gate side, I don't think you need the "A" in "A Part of..." Just "Part of the ScifiHero.net Community" will do, I think. Or even a one line, "part of ScifiHero.net" all in the same font.

I think maybe we could do without the "A Part of SciFiHero.net" on the back of the shirt since you have the community logo on the front chest? That way you can move StargateHero.net under the Got Gate graphic -- I think that would look a bit less cluttered.

On the SFH logo -- will the "Be the hero!" tag line be on the shirt? I think if it were going to be a chest pocket logo, it'd look better with out the text there.

Not to knock Phil's work, because I like the design, but I don't like the idea of using the 302 on the club t-shirt. I would much rather see something like a large version of the SFH logo on the front with the words "Be The Hero" and the web address on the back. Or maybe even list the major subsections below the motto, but I think that would look too cluttered.

It's simple and fully represents the entire community without putting too much or too little emphasis on any area or subdivision. After those are made then we can work on sub-site shirts.

Keep it simple now, branch out later. That's the best approach IMO.

And yeah, baby doll Ts for the ladies is a must!

I agree with this post. A black tee with the logo on the front and just "Be the Hero"/URL across the upper back would be class.

My basic thinking is now that we have this cool new logo we need to get it out there and get it seen. That's not going to happen if it's confined to the breast pocket area.

A couple shirt mock-ups.





I'd wear that

Honestly. I don't think anything on the back of the shirt is really necessary. The logo says everything want -- the site URL and that we are a costuming & prop community.

I think to keep the 302 is a good idea, or, to make an Atlantis variant, replace it by a Jumper, as Ryan said the other day.

Great mock-ups Cyn.


Sure it works for the Stargate part of the site, but what about everyone else? Why not have a Viper or Serenity busting through, or a Zombie chomping on it, or a Tardis, or a wand, or a Alien head? I'm just saying that if the club shirt promotes one sub-part over the rest, they're not getting their fair share.

This might be a good idea for our first run of club tee shirts, its simple and very clean. Personally I would like to have "Be The Hero!" on the back.

It is a three color set up, but the suggestion of letting Cafe Press do these for us so everyone can buy their own shirt directly instead of putting together a group order.

NP Kronk

It would be a great idea too. And as Dan said, if the shirts are made by Cafe Press, everyone could feel free to choose his/her own desing

The benefit of going with CafePress or similar site isn't in allowing multiple designs really, it's more about not having to get a group order going, getting X number of shirts in order to keep the price reasonable, and then shipping all of the shirts out to everybody. By going with a CafePress type setup all we have to do after the shirt has been designed is to post a link to where to order and then everybody orders their own at a price we determine with no minimum numbers needed.

I don't know if I'll have time to do this tonight but how's this for a shirt idea: Taking the suggestions about it being less Stargatecentric how about replacing the 302 with Mk II Viper instead? While it doesn't incorporate any other elements from any other show it does show that we're about more than just Stargate and by having the Viper busting through the gate it will also symbolize our breaking through our past origins as a Stargate group. I'll need to just find a decent shot of a Viper at the right angle and then converting it to a vector file so that it resembles the original design and matches the gate, I don't think a photo-real Viper would look right against a line drawing of a gate.

My only issue with Cafepress is the shirts aren't that high quality. I could be wrong, since I've not ordered anything from them in a couple years, but the shirt I got i wasn't impressed with at all. After a couple washings, the shirt lost a lot of its color.

Riceball take a good idea mixing some images in a logo reprensantating all our activities.

What about Zazzle.com? They do the same thing as CafrePress but I've heard that they're less expensive, might their quality be better? Once we settle on a design we could always do a test and have a shirt done at both and see what the quality looks like.

I DK if you know Spreadshirt ???

I second the suggestion of Spreadshirt.com -- their shirts are on the average much less expensive than Cafepress. I don't know about their quality at the moment, but I have friends who ordered two or three years ago and thought the shirts were better than Cafepress.

Spreadshirt might be good, do they do double sided t-shirts? I think that was one of the limitations of CafrePress, they only print on one side. Forget about Zazzle, I've read some bad reviews on them about customer service and quality.

For what I've seen, we can print front, back and two sides on the shirt as the same time.

Correct prices (about 16 €, or 20 $)

And a lot of model, really a vrey great variety.

Ditto! I will find a vendor in New Orleans before I see a run done with that cheap stuff!

I did the Sheppard Security Team ones for Johhny and myself with Vista and they came out pretty well, two sided as well!

I like everything about the gate back/302 logo... except the placement of the "got gate" letters.

Looks like someone shotgunned them in a random location.

I can see Kronk's 'gate centric issue, I just don't have a solution for the issue.

Russ

If you have any printers in mind by all means check them out and get a quote once we get finalized art. On my end I'll try Spreadshirt and do one to see how it looks and maybe try CustomInk as well.

If they're going to be done through something like CafePress where you can order one-off's instead of runs, the gate logo is fine. But if we're going to do a run of quality screen printed shirts I really think we need to lose the "got gate" and stick with the SFH as the largest focus of the shirt. This is just my personal opinion, but if we end up with the large "got gate" and the tiny SFH on the front, I won't buy one. Like I said, it's not that I don't like that 302 design, because I do, I just don't think it's right for our first club shirt.

Alrighty folks, here's a rough mockup of what I had in mind for the Viper and gate shirt concept. It's rough but I think it shows off the idea rather nicely. I'll tidy up the Viper when/if we decide to go with this idea, I'll vector it out and play with the colors some.

Don't forget your watermark Phil. We don't want any more art stolen around here...

got costume?

BE THE HERO

What about that first crazy design we had for the SFH logo?

This might look cool on the back of a shirt, it wasn't going to work for basic logo, but what about our first t-shirt?

We (mostly Phil) did all this work why not use it!